Guardian Podcast: The party of slow learners

It was a pleasure to do the Guardian Politics Weekly podcast this week with Tom Clark, Aditya Chakrabortty and Martin Kettle.

It was a wide-ranging discussion that touches on welfare, pensions, pre-war coalitions and the challenges of Trade Unionism and Corporate governance. You can listen here, or if  I can work out embedding, below.

Line of the day goes to Aditya, I think, describing the Labour Party as ‘the party of slow learners‘.

This means the next election will be Slow learners versus the Stupid party: Enticing!

One thing I should probably say – apologies for being an all male line up. It’s probably  best to look at these things in the round, and the Guardian is pretty good on gender balance issues, but sure they’d agree with me there’s always more to do.

2 Responses to “Guardian Podcast: The party of slow learners”

  1. Brian Cox

    I enjoyed the podcast and your contribution. Thanks.

    One question that was raised in the discussion but not answered was how we can grasp not just the scale of the changes ahead of us following the economic collapse but the nature of them. Was it you or Aditya Chakrabortty that said that the main parties dont yet get what is coming?

    If this is true (and I increasingly think it is) then its not just a question of how we construct a response to the challenges faced by the Labour Party and the left on the welfare state or industrial policy or the banks but about re-thinking the post war settlement. It seems to me that this should encompass the big old questions of ownership, control, work, the role of the state, internationalism and so on.

    But really at the moment the critical question is not the “what” questions – its how do we make a start: how do we engage in discussion, thought and action together?

  2. Tom P

    Was it Martin Kettle who made the point about unions not liking co-determination? Not sure it’s true – certainly TUC policy is in favour of employee directors. Suspect this has changed a lot since Bullock when TUs were strong enough to see no gain from corp gov reform


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